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The Possibility Mindset Podcast
Embracing The Possibility Mindset is about igniting untapped potential, emerging stronger after setbacks and achieving seemingly impossible goals. Devin Henderson is a motivational keynote speaker, award-winning magician and comedian, and most notably, he and his wife Lynn have been blessed with the opportunity of raising 7 beautiful daughters! Devin’s passion is using real-life examples, along with humor and fun, to help individuals and organizations pursue new levels of greatness and to keep going no matter what. You’ll also enjoy wonderful conversations with guests who have pursued incredible possibilities in their life and work. Subscribe now and discover what else is possible for you!
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The Possibility Mindset Podcast
#20 Navigating Personality Types with Former Kansas City Chiefs Chiefette Candy Whirley
You're an animal. Don't believe me? Just ask Candy Whirley. In her book, "It Takes 4 to Tango," (that's right...4, not 2!) Candy brilliantly lays out the 4 personality types based on animals - the chameleon, lion, lamb and owl...which are you? Also...which are the people you live and work with? Knowing what "animal" they are can also help you serve and care for them at the highest level.
And by the way...this episode is a BLAST! I mean, what else would you expect from a former Chiefs Chiefette?
Candy, a seasoned motivational speaker, also opens up about the challenges of generational communication, particularly in professional settings. She enlightens us with practical approaches to bridging the generational gap. Venturing deeper, we delve into the world of emotional intelligence and how it intertwines with the practice of yoga. Candy, a certified yoga instructor, shares how this ancient practice has transformed her approach to emotional intelligence and even guides us through a simple chair yoga move and breathing exercise.
We draw the episode to a close by shedding light on the significance of self-care. Candy shares her personal rule of taking one day off every week and the huge positive impact it has had on her life. Don't miss the chance to keep asking, "what else is possible?" and open yourself to new possibilities as you strive for growth and improvement. This episode is loaded with inspiration, practical advice, and thought-provoking discussions designed to ignite your desire to explore the endless possibilities in your life. Tune in and let's explore together!
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Alright, what's up everybody. Welcome to the possibility mindset podcast. I'm Devin Henderson, I'm your host and I believe that something greater is always possible for you. I'm guessing you agree with that too.
Speaker 2:You can jump on board with that theory.
Speaker 1:Maybe never in those words before, but it makes sense.
Speaker 2:It does Okay, good Awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm excited to introduce our amazing guest for today, but first of all, I just want to say thank you to etc. Shawnee for providing the space and providing us with breakfast. So you drove a long way to get here today. I didn't know you had to drive so far, but like an hour and a half Hour and a half. Wow, this is Candy. That's the informal introduction Candy you drove all this way. I appreciate it. Was the breakfast alone worth the?
Speaker 2:hour and a half drive. Truly, truly, I'm going to go with the avocado toast. Avocado toast yeah, incredible, it looks good it had that fresh mozzarella on top of the toast and I was like hey, you want to trade? I was thinking it, I wasn't going to be like, come on, let's trade. It was, it was so good, awesome.
Speaker 1:So thank you, etc. Shawnee, also, before we jump in, can I just talk about something that they might be interested in? Yep, okay, awesome, I'll save the best for last Candy. That's what we're doing. So I'm day 23 off coffee. I didn't tell you that yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been a huge coffee drinker for years now and it's been my daily ritual. But I've always struggled with sleep. So as a kid and even into adulthood, pop like soda coke, whatever you want to call it was my big thing. So I've always had a high caffeine intake. So then I quit pop cold turkey, like eight or nine years ago. But then I quit pop then and I went to coffee. So coffee became my new ritual. I knew I need this every day. I love this, but I've always struggled with sleep and I've always struggled with energy all day long. So I was like I need to make a change. So I'm 23 days off coffee, just to kind of detox and see is this going to affect me at all? So I don't know. I'll get back to you exactly on how that's working.
Speaker 2:Okay, I know what I know.
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Speaker 2:My girlfriend started it too.
Speaker 1:Did she really? It loves it.
Speaker 2:Loves it.
Speaker 1:Awesome, awesome.
Speaker 2:And it helps more than sleep? Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:It boosts immunity, helps your energy and gives you focus, and I'm finding that to be true, and I was actually doing kind of a mud water coffee combination before I went cold turkey with coffee. I've been here recently here, but now that I'm like it's all mud water and I am finding that my sleep has been improving and that my energy is. I'm having more of it and more focus throughout the day, just a little. I've noticed a little bit of a difference, which is huge when you've been struggling with something for years. So just want to let you know about mud water. Try it out.
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Speaker 2:I'm going to try it. You're going to do it Well, because here's the thing the girlfriend that I just told you about, devin, has fibromyalgia.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, and it has helped with that. Really.
Speaker 2:It has helped with her sleep. Yeah, it is, so that's great. Well, thanks for that, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean because maybe there's someone on here struggling with fibromyalgia and there you go yeah, it could help. So that's great. You know, it's really funny because last week I pitched a product about a certain kind of shoe and the guy was totally on board with the whole barefoot mentality. So I just God's working this out.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Whether the right guests are coming on with the right product. This was not planned.
Speaker 2:No, because you didn't even tell me.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't tell you. So that's awesome. So, but, yeah, speaking of which, this is like this is the last day of November. So, no shave, november almost over, people almost over. You want to put this image for much longer. So, anyway, that, yeah, and it makes me think, like, where will the chiefs be come January, when this comes out? Because just now, they lost to the Eagles and then they won against, yeah, the Raiders, and I'm supporting my chiefs today for a specific reason. It has to do with the guests.
Speaker 1:You're about to find out, but I want to blow the surprise yet. So, so, candy, what I want to do is I want to go ahead and, by the way, all the links that we say will be in the footer, so that mudwater link will be in there. If you just check it out, if you're listening, make sure to get the full experience here, because candy is a very fun, lively, visual expressive person. If you want to get the full experience, go to YouTube at Devin Henderson speaker for that full experience. Don't forget to subscribe and like and share. We want to extend our reach. So also, you know, comment on Apple Spotify. We'd love all that. Okay, all right, it is now time for the best part, where we get to introduce our wonderful guests. So candy Worley is a CSP, which is a certified speaking professional. I like to think of CSP like the black belt of public speaking.
Speaker 2:That's how I describe it. It was hard, it was hard, it is. It's a process, isn't it? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:She's a producer of several books and training programs and has spoken in all 50 states, as well as several other countries Canada, korea. You're in Seoul, seoul Korea.
Speaker 2:I said Seoul, oh boy, seoul Korea.
Speaker 1:I just was reading it. And in Africa. And she is a certified yoga teacher, which I want to hear more about too. Okay, cause I know that's sort of a new development in your. By the way, I have a job. It's a joke when people introduce me I have not spoken in all 50 states. I've spoken in like. Well, the introduction is Devin has spoken in all 50 states except Hawaii and Alaska, and like 17 others. So that's, that's the joke. So I don't want to speak in all 50 states cause I can't say that anymore. Yeah, okay. So candy's been married for 36 years Congratulations, that's incredible. Business owner for 22 years, grammy for 16 years and four months. Grammy meaning grandma. When I first read that I was like Grammy award, yeah, but she does have the Grammy award, right, she's an incredible grandma. And here we go. Here's the chief's connection. Are you ready? She was a Kansas city chief's chief fat for three years, yeah, yeah. And then you read the last line oh, that's eight.
Speaker 2:These are her words A long time ago Was that in the galaxy far, far away?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:No, I love it.
Speaker 1:I think I recently got to perform again. We did Like last season.
Speaker 2:And it was this, it was at this time, cause all my Facebook memories were coming up. It was this time last year they asked all of the alum to come back. There were 300 of us.
Speaker 1:Wow, and we got to perform at halftime. Wow, how cool is that. What did that feel like?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it. I almost started crying. I was just like oh my gosh, I bet as soon as our group came out, because, believe it or not, I'm 61. I wasn't the oldest.
Speaker 1:I don't believe it.
Speaker 2:And so we all had different dances, okay. And as soon as we came out on the field 50 yard line, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm back, I'm back. I felt like I was 18 years old again. Yeah, I feel like it just was yesterday. It was. It just did this last year. Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:That's so cool that they did that. So that's amazing. Awesome. She's got her red on, so we are all chiefs today baby yes, and so I want to use this as our launching pad too. She's the author of the book it takes four to tango. Now I know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it because they won't know the answer yet. It takes four to tango. I thought it just took two to tango Candy. What does four mean?
Speaker 2:What is that all about? You know what it's the four personalities Everybody has taken this is what I usually tell them in my speaking. Everybody has taken some kind of a strengths and weaknesses test. Disc D-I-S-C true colors there's a self, there's Myers-Briggs.
Speaker 1:Well, I just and Enneagram is the big one I'm hearing about now, right, yes, yeah, there's all kinds of these.
Speaker 2:And so I just studied all this information and made it fun. And so I've got four personalities who people can relate to, who people get right away. I've had people come up to me afterwards and say, oh my gosh, I've taken all those tests. I really get it now. So that's.
Speaker 1:I can vouch for it. Okay, I said that I knew the answer to the question because I know her concept. Candy and I have showcased together a few, three or four times maybe, and I've seen this whole message. Here's the book. It takes four to tango. Check it out. You got to. You know what we'll do. Can they buy this, like through Amazon? They?
Speaker 2:can go to my site or Amazon.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know, we'll link the Amazon link to Candy's book. Okay, you got some others here. Just touch on those. Should we get to this one or save that one? Let's save it. Let's save it. Okay, awesome, so it takes four to tango Now. So you do this in your, in your keynote presentation, and I can vouch for everything you just said. Cause, when you think about okay, personality test, strengths test, strengths finder test, they're great, right, it's not like we're dissing on them. We're not dissing on this.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, you know he does it good? Not at all.
Speaker 1:But sometimes it's like a lengthy process to find it out. Candy's keynote is about hey, let's take a real quick test. You can assess it in just a few minutes. You're going to know exactly what you are. And she starts to unpack the four personalities. You see people lighting up, laughing, nudging each other, because they can very quickly identify themselves into one of these four categories.
Speaker 2:And judging each other, and judging each other, and I'll tell you when I started telling people. That's going to lead right to this. When I started telling people you know here's what I don't. At the beginning, when I start going through the characteristics, I tell them not to judge their neighbor.
Speaker 1:Because they do. They want to say, oh, that's you, that's you.
Speaker 2:Well, and then I started thinking about no, you know what? I do want people to judge each other, especially when they go back to work, because I tell them people aren't difficult, they're just different. I want you to figure out. I want you to judge who people are. So that's when the development of pull that out.
Speaker 1:there the development of this postcard.
Speaker 2:All right check this out, if you're listening, you'll have to watch on YouTube.
Speaker 1:You have to watch on YouTube the four personalities right there. I have the four animals, I have the four animals. And I have their characteristics? Yeah, I love this. I love to hear which one I am. Just from the last showcase we did like a month ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm the lamb, I'll just give it away, but I'm excited about knowing what I am, so take us through, and I love that part about you know we're different, and so this in a minute, whenever's the time, tell us why we need to know that about the other people. Why is it important to know that we're all different? Why does it make a difference in the workplace?
Speaker 2:in other words, Because it's about connection. Yeah, and that is my bottom line. That is what I'm hired for is reconnecting people. Reconnecting people, because we sit there and we get upset at people because they don't think like we do, they don't talk like we do, they don't communicate like we do, and it's like wait a second, you know, let's learn those characteristics, learn how to communicate so we can learn how to adapt.
Speaker 1:And I tell people don't, I don't want you turning into another animal, another personality but, I, want you to learn to adapt and respect those differences Because we tend to treat people the way we think we want to be treated.
Speaker 2:But it's like that whole thing.
Speaker 1:Don't treat people the way you want to be treated. Treat people the way they want to be treated. Because they're going to respond better to their coworkers, to their leaders, to their managers, if you understand the chemical makeup of their body, which this you know. It comes down to it, so that I can give you the kind of love and nurturing and guidance that you're going to accept and perform the best way possible, right, so okay. So the four animals take me through them. Candy, what do we have here?
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, all right, so we have the chameleon.
Speaker 1:And think about this as you hear this go ahead. No, you're doing the same thing, I know this is the fun part of this Think about which one you are. Okay, and then think also about the people around you your spouse, your significant other, your coworkers and like oh, this might shed a little light on help understanding them better and your own children, your own children, they're all different. They're all of your girls. They're so different. Yes, yes, yes, they are. It's crazy, all right.
Speaker 2:So, in a nutshell, we're not you know, don't have time to give you everything, but in a nutshell, chameleon, think about chameleon. What happens when a chameleon gets on you? It changes. Chameleons love change, they love, they're very flexible, they can go this way, they can go that way.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they can talk you into anything. And they have a saying they're like oh, I'm a car salesman.
Speaker 1:Oh right, yes, I mean, hey, that's not a dig, that's a skill.
Speaker 2:I know, and in the book I do have a section on here's the job you are probably in oh yeah, or here's the job you should probably look into.
Speaker 1:You need to move too. Yeah. So you tell your audience just hey, everybody quit your jobs, go do something else. I understand, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:That's why I don't bring it up at my conferences, okay, and so that, and they like appreciation, they like the paths on the map.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So then we have a lion. A lion likes to be in charge Bottom line. They like results. When you're talking to them. They're the ones that just get to the point. Okay, Stop messing around.
Speaker 1:Stop beating around the bush. Yeah, I do have someone in my family like this. Yes, I don't mean that a bad way, but immediately I'm like yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, because I'm going to tell you, if you, if, if anybody decides to get the book, this is a great game for Christmas.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a family game For Christmas 2024. Oh, that's right. Oh, it's going to be in January. It's a great Valentine's Day game. Yeah, it's a great Valentine's Day game. It's a great Valentine's Day game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a great.
Speaker 1:Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2:But anyway, okay, okay. So the Lions have a saying and it's get it done.
Speaker 1:Bottom line All right, lambs Okay.
Speaker 2:Lambs are your peacemakers, the peacemakers of work, the peacemakers in your office, the peacemakers at home. They're great listeners, they love to work in teams and they're saying is get along, so you're a lamb. I am a lamb, have you been a lamb all the times you've seen me. I've changed, I believe so I don't think I've changed that much, but sometimes I do.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this before you get onto the next one Are there sometimes? Do we have overlap between? Like I have a piece of the line, because I would say the part of the lamb that it doesn't resonate with me is the last thing you said, which was liking to work in teams. I prefer to work alone, but I'm very much that peacemaker, empathetic, good listener type person, but that's.
Speaker 2:these two have that in common. Okay, so you have a little bit of Al in you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we'll talk about that. A little bit of wisdom in there.
Speaker 2:Yes, so lamb Tell me more. You need your glasses.
Speaker 1:I need my glasses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Lambs, they're saying, is get along. We said that Al Al. Think about it. Why is Al? They're the analyticles they like the data, the research. They'd rather work alone. Okay, yeah, yeah and they're saying is get it right.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And so, if you think about the chameleons and the lions, because I always tell everybody we have a primary, we have a secondary.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:So the chameleons and the lions? They take the lead.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When there's a project, they take the lead, but I always tell them you can't get anything done without the lambs and the al's, they're the doers.
Speaker 1:Oh, thanks everyone, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you might feel like you're one of those. One of those. Okay, chameleons and lambs are very people oriented. They love people, they like to work with people. Lions and al's are very task oriented.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So give me the task Now. Here's the hard part, and you guys are getting you're getting my keynote in a blink.
Speaker 1:There you go For free, For free.
Speaker 2:The opposite, your polar opposite. Who drives you? Your lamb?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who drives you the craziest Cause you like peace.
Speaker 1:You? Yeah, probably the chameleon. The chameleon, you know I'm not so flexible Like when someone's like let's go on a last minute road trip. I'm like I haven't gotten to plan this for two months yet Right.
Speaker 2:So I'm kind of like See that's where, but here's the thing. That's where your al kind of comes in because you're at the planning part yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not about spreadsheets and data, but there is, yeah, a flavor of the al coming in. I can see that now there needs to be a plan. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Well, so the opposites, the polar opposites. Usually let's just jump right into it. The chameleons and the al's are usually polar opposite. Okay, I'm going to tell the audience right now. That's probably who you're married to, or your significant other. Polar opposite. What did?
Speaker 1:they say Opposites attract, opposites attract.
Speaker 2:Because, chameleons, we want to go like this. Because I'm a chameleon and al's. Nope, we've got a list, we've got it. And then, polar opposite, lion and a lamb. Get to the bottom line Lambs. Oh, can we just talk about it. Can we figure this out.
Speaker 1:Okay, does that make sense? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:So think about the people I want to tell the audience, tell you, think about the people who drive you crazy, and it is, it's probably your polar opposite, but look at their strengths and in my talk that's what I go through. What are your strengths?
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:How do we communicate with you? What are perceived negatives?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So can you tell, I like this Excellent.
Speaker 1:No, that's. I mean it makes. Now I can see why you crush it up. There's so much on the stage Because when she gets up and does this and I mean, if you think this is fun, which is very, imagine her in front of, like you know, your audience of you know 100, 300, 500, 1,000 people she's able to facilitate this and bring it right home to people. In the moment you get up people, when the ground size is the right size, you get them up and move them.
Speaker 1:to the four corners of the room you have the posters of the animal pictures.
Speaker 2:And it's so fun and they're all relating, and I mean humans.
Speaker 1:We're so complicated, We'd love for it to just be one animal for everybody. No, it's four animals. Well, not just that, Every animal has its like polar opposite, or, yeah, Enneagram calls it a wing. You've got a tendency towards you know you're on the six, but I might have like a wing seven, and so this is. You're covering that, but in very simple, relatable terms. That can be done very quickly and very effectively.
Speaker 2:And I'm telling you In the setting like this.
Speaker 1:It's so cool.
Speaker 2:And relatable no matter where. Because you talked about soul, I got to speak for the million dollar round table. It's awesome and soul Korean. There were 4,000 from seven different countries and they got it yeah.
Speaker 1:They got it. I remember seeing some promo footage from that yes, and you can tell they were getting it.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's yeah, now I didn't get them in the four corners, but what. I did is just like what you saw. You know, I gave them the characteristics and then, if you're a chameleon, stand up please. And then I gave them their dark sides which was so funny. Because your dark sides are really come out under pressure, under stress.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Well, so a call to action on the takes four to tango thing in the comments. You know, let us know. Which animal are you? Okay Again, are you the chameleon, the lion, the lamb or the owl? And and expand on that you know, which one are you married to? Is it the polar opposite? Do you have like a flavor of one of the other animals mixed in with that? And who are people around you, without starting a fight, who are people around you that you see? Oh, this person's this. I need to handle them differently. You don't have to name names, but it just be fun. Go to the comments, let us know.
Speaker 2:And it's okay. I want to tell you what's going to happen. You're going to, we're going to see. Comments are going oh my gosh, I'm a lion and I'm married to a lion. What's going to happen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what, what, what is going to happen?
Speaker 2:Everything works out. It's okay and I tell them go home, share this information with your people, with your people at work, with your people at home. So you just get each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get each other. You're married about half as long as you have. But even I know, and so you can maybe vouch for me on this marriage is difficult, it's messy, it takes work.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And my wife and I are always communicating about. Okay, how does this make you feel? You know when I said that we'll analyze conversations, not not to judge and to bring up unnecessary dirt, but to learn from it and say how can I serve you better, more effectively. And I think I want to take this, can I take this card?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's perspective. We have different perspectives, totally.
Speaker 1:And I think I know which one she is. But I want to ask her which one she thinks she is and which one she thinks I am, because I think that'll be a fun launchpad for a conversation for us, for a day and night.
Speaker 2:What do you think she is?
Speaker 1:She's not going to say this on your life, yeah, no yeah, I think she's a well again, I think she's a chameleon, mostly because she's very flexible, adaptable. As a mother of seven you have to be constantly changing. She's not so much a risk taker. So I would say that's the one thing and the chameleon that I'm like. Hmm, you know, there's got to be something else.
Speaker 2:But I think she's.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, and I think she's a chameleon with a little bit of lamb kind of that empathy like that team player. Let's do this together. So so I love this. This will be very, a lot of fun for us to do.
Speaker 2:We haven't done that yet, so awesome Okay.
Speaker 1:So, and then there's there's so many other places we could go, candy, and I see the other book which I didn't know you had a second book. Can we talk about that? Yes, okay, what's it called?
Speaker 2:We called it. It takes four generations to Tango.
Speaker 1:We're staying with the theme of the four. Okay, I like that. I like that, yes.
Speaker 2:Actually and you can talk you probably talked to a lot of speakers we call it our COVID book you know, because all of our businesses shut down and I had been collecting data from my participants for three years and it was like perfect timing. So with my generations it's. I'm glad we just talked about Tango because it's very similar. But I break them up into their generations.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So the boomers talk to the boomers, the Xers talk to the Xers. Millennials and Zs now I have lots of Zs.
Speaker 1:Sounds juicy, it is so juicy.
Speaker 2:Well, the whole book and I ask them questions and they get to answer the questions out loud. Well, at the very end I allow them to write a burning question on a poster to any generation and that generation has to answer it. So I know, like boomers, they'll put boomers. We want to know millennials. Why do you feel so entitled? It's the question of the hour.
Speaker 1:Let us know in the comments why do you feel so entitled?
Speaker 2:I know they're going to go what?
Speaker 1:I was almost a millennial. I was born in 79, which makes me a Y, I think, if that's right. And then my wife. Well, she was 80. How old are you? Not 44,? But she was born in 80. Am I a millennial?
Speaker 2:You're a millennial. Really, millennials are 46.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing when you do research, yes, and let me say this when you do.
Speaker 1:It makes sense now. I know myself now.
Speaker 2:So, um, when you do research, when I did research for my book, for my talk, bridge the Gap, the researchers vary one to two years with the age, with the breakdown, okay, okay, okay, I do.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying, so you might look up another researcher and you're an ex. Okay.
Speaker 2:But the ones that I found the most. You're a millennial.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that's good to know. Yeah, I don't know, it's just a fun time. I'm a millennial. Yeah, there you go. I gotta consider my audience when I say that, though. Right, like, who am I talking to? Yay, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:And so or another question would be from the millennials, or even the Z's will ask the boomers why do you hate change? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you know, okay, that's a good question, and so I tell my groups, I come in and I stir the pot, I open up the conversation of what's bugging you the most, and then I get to leave, and so they get to figure it out. Well, what I did.
Speaker 1:Put it in your boxing gloves I'm gone, I'm gone, yeah.
Speaker 2:I gathered all those posters Devin for three years, yeah, yeah. And that's what this book is.
Speaker 1:They wrote the book for you.
Speaker 2:They wrote the book for me. It is all their questions. Wow, I even have. I even took pictures because I wanted people to believe. I even took pictures of some of the posters.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, Uh-huh, Let me hold that up. Yeah, let's just okay, let's check this out, let's put the camera here, so it is all of the questions.
Speaker 2:I believe you can see that, all of the answers that were given around the country. Oh yeah, so that's what that book?
Speaker 1:is Gen Z. What do you truly care about? Wow, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:It's juicy, it gets real. It's the generation that gets real juicy.
Speaker 1:I'm just I'm thinking, I'm sure. I'm sure I'm thinking about something. Where do these like? Do these overlap? There has to be, because in the different generations you're gonna have different personalities. Is that just too dirty to try to get into in a keynote?
Speaker 2:I've been asked. I know, but I've been asked. I've been asked hey, is there any research? I haven't found it yet. Am I gonna do it?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, good for you. Good for you, I mean, this is enough to take in. I'm the kind of guy I'm like. I have to explore every single thing you know and I think too much. That's why that's probably my sleep problem. I just never turn it off. So, no, that's so great. Well, that's amazing Candy. So then, question you, talk about these you have you speak on. I think you mentioned one of the topics. Emotional intelligence, Emotional intelligence. Tell me about that.
Speaker 2:So that I stick with my four. I talk about the four components of emotional intelligence and I you know what and that, and that is the one that goes hand in hand with yoga.
Speaker 1:Okay. It worked out beautifully. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because emotional intelligence is about looking at your emotions during change, during hard times, and I give them tools and techniques, how to communicate better, how to stay calm in those times, and I tell them hey, we're humans, I'm not telling you not to be mad, not to be sad, not to be glad, but there's a time for that.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's a space for that, so that, that one.
Speaker 2:I tease my audiences because I am so interactive and I use so much humor. But this talk I still use humor, but I get a little bit serious on. What are you hanging on to? That's causing you to be emotional. So that's what that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, candy it's. I mean, I've known you, I don't know how long now since I started speaking, which has been 13, 14 years, something like that I'm just gonna say. It's middle-wide and I've we've never gotten to really go real deep with, like you know, personal I like, I'm like, why is Candy so happy, so bubbly? So it's just part of who she is. It's natural that she became like a chief's chief at.
Speaker 2:You know, you just had the.
Speaker 1:You're always smiling. You've got that energy that like I could see a stadium you know jumping on board with and that's contagious. But take me back just a little bit. Like were you into dance and cheer when you were a kid? How did you? How did you grow into that?
Speaker 2:I was. I was. I had started taking dancing in elementary school, so I had danced clear up until then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:And I was on my palm squad at school.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And when I was a chief at you could be in high school. See, you have to be 21 now. Oh, okay, yeah, so I was on my palm squad and a chief at for two years at the same time. You were busy, I was busy.
Speaker 1:I was super busy. What did that feel like when you were on the chief squad and then come back to your high school? You were the only one, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2:No, there was one other there. What?
Speaker 1:were you guys just like the goddesses?
Speaker 2:of the palm palm and were like oh my gosh. Saw you on TV, candy, and then he was like I'm gonna take a writer, because I just told my grandsons this.
Speaker 1:I have three grandsons.
Speaker 2:I just told them this because they go to my high school.
Speaker 1:Oh cool, they go to my high school. Now, what? Where are you from? What high school is that Winnitonka, winnitonka, winnitonka, which is in Missouri? Okay, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:Okay, and so yes, I was a chief at, but then I would be the palmie, the palm and I would do half time and pre-game, before the basketball games. I was the varsity basketball team statistician.
Speaker 1:You brought some owl into it, right.
Speaker 2:Like a little bit of stats.
Speaker 1:Can you believe it? I can't believe it, I know.
Speaker 2:I lettered, I know, I know I'm trying to picture you all of a sudden like whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo.
Speaker 1:OK, let's get this spreadsheet going here with the stats. I don't see that crossing over.
Speaker 2:I finally gave something Devon didn't know about me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you blew my mind just now, for sure, I know.
Speaker 2:I know. So I would have my little Pommy uniform on and I would be sitting behind the guys.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2:And my girlfriend did it too, and I was the statistician that had to. Every basket that they made I had to circle and put their number.
Speaker 1:Sure sure, Wow. What was that? How did you get that gig?
Speaker 2:I T8 for the coach.
Speaker 1:OK, ok, and he's like listen.
Speaker 2:I need it and I traveled with him.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's crazy, so I lettered in Boy's basketball.
Speaker 2:So out when I talk at, this is getting weirder by the minute. Out when I talk and I noticed they finally did it. Don't tell me that you actually played for the team also OK all right.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know where this is going, so anything could happen now.
Speaker 2:And they had. They used to. Everybody that lettered had their pictures up on the wall with their letter. And Mary and I were the only two girls on the boy's side. Yeah, cool.
Speaker 1:So Mama. So what else about you? Are you part?
Speaker 2:of the CIA.
Speaker 1:I'm a rebel, I'm a rebel, I'm a rebel, I'm a CIA agent, I don't know what else. No, that's so cool. So I mean, you have this background like cheer, so it makes so much sense that you went into motivational speaking.
Speaker 2:You're cheering people on in life is what you're doing, right and I ride that and I told them I'll ride it till the day I die.
Speaker 1:Because, you know, we teach them the cheer. What's the cheer? Yeah, we need to do the cheer. It's a snap clap woohoo, they do a cheer Snap, clap, woohoo, all right.
Speaker 2:And the thing is, I've taught, I've spoke in front of all engineers before and I'm like OK, how are you feeling about the cheer to my client?
Speaker 1:How do you feel?
Speaker 2:about the cheer. He said you do that cheer.
Speaker 1:Nice. You make them do that cheer, get them uncomfortable, right I mean? So the cheer like. What is that a symbol of? Is that about like we need to celebrate more. We need to cheer each other on? What's the purpose of the snap? Clap, woohoo.
Speaker 2:Well, two reasons. It goes with the cheerleader thing, Because my introduction is about she was a chief's cheerleader. So and I tell them, just like you said, I'm here to cheer you through life and I want you to cheer for each other.
Speaker 1:Because I don't use PowerPoint. And.
Speaker 2:I tell them that right up front and I said but we're going to be interactive, we're going to be working in teams and I want you to cheer for each other. That's the cheer, and that gives them it's back to being brain-brained.
Speaker 1:Well, it's what these opening and closing keynotes need, right? It's just energy, fun and you bring that and you get everybody involved and just from the get-go with the woohoo, I mean that's awesome. So then we'll kind of fast forward through.
Speaker 2:Now you're a yoga instructor right, I am, which to me is when I'm not speaking. Yeah, so tell me about.
Speaker 1:How did you get into?
Speaker 2:that. What's that mean for you right now? Let's go back to COVID. I, you know, all of our businesses Devin, all of our businesses shut down. So I thought, OK, I can't sit around, so wrote the second book and then I started working on my retirement plan, and my retirement plan was always. I've been practicing yoga for probably about 15 to 18 years already. Ok, and so my retirement plan, when I'm done speaking, was to teach yoga, and then I always wanted to be a substitute teacher.
Speaker 2:That was my in my brain when I was a young kid. I always thought I'd be a teacher. Well, I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am there, you go, there, you go yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that's what I started working on. So I got certified as a yoga instructor. I have a, we have a yoga studio it's not my yoga studio, dear, oh. These sweet guys have a yoga studio called North Star Wellness and I teach for them once a week. One of them's had emergency appendectomy, so I've been substituting, substituting for him, but eventually, when I they're ready for me, when I retire, to start teaching full time.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's great. And so if someone's listening, they happen to be in your area. Like what if you say, hey, if you're in this area, come check out Kansas. Do you want to plug it? It's a small town. I know it's a small town, it's.
Speaker 2:Richmond, missouri, richmond, missouri, which is close to Lexington, it's east of Kansas City. Richmond's actually just 40 minutes east of Kansas City, 30 minutes east of Liberty.
Speaker 1:From the highway that goes right by World's of Fun right. Yes, 210.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, 210. It's 210.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ok. So if you're in the Richmond Missouri area, hey, look it up. What's the name of your yoga?
Speaker 2:It's North Star Wellness. And I do restorative yoga. So you have blankets and bolsters and blocks and oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so who's your clientele mainly?
Speaker 2:Right now, you know what it's right down the middle I still have 30s and 40s, but I also, on my Mondays, I have 70s to 80s.
Speaker 1:OK, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yoga, I can't talk enough about it, and now people are starting to, I'll go ahead, and when I'm working with clients I'll go ahead and say, hey, if you got emotional intelligence, yeah, we really like that. When I said I teach chair yoga, they're like, oh my gosh, we've got to have that.
Speaker 1:What does that look like in a corporate setting? Is it like, hey, we're getting up at 7 one morning to do some chair yoga with Candy Whirly? Our speaker Is that what you mean.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:No, OK, OK.
Speaker 2:They'll hire me for a conference as an opening or a closing.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:Or an opening and a breakout you know how we do breakouts, yeah. And I teach. It's a big conference, so I teach them 15, 20 minutes of chair yoga that they can take back and do while they're working.
Speaker 1:So you do this in a keynote setting. You're teaching this yoga chair thing that's they're sitting in chairs.
Speaker 2:They're sitting in chairs. I've done it in keynotes. I've done it in breakouts.
Speaker 1:Wow, and then we love it. That's so cool, especially as a closing. Well, we're in chairs right now. I'm putting you on the spot. Is there one move that we could teach the audience that will help them.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Can they see us, can they see you? They can really see our feet. Is there anything you can do, sort of like you know waist up that we could show them yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, let's do it here we go. If you're listening, you've got to go to YouTube to check this one out.
Speaker 2:So we're going to do a twist.
Speaker 1:A twist.
Speaker 2:all right, Because when we're sitting, we're like this yeah, yeah, yeah, hunched over typing.
Speaker 1:If you're listening, yes, yes, so we're just setting straight up OK.
Speaker 2:And you're going to take your hands. I hope they can see this.
Speaker 1:We're going to take our arms straight up in the air. Ok, arms are coming straight up, straight up in the air. Yep, like a touchdown symbol. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Now go to the right. Go to the right and you're going to twist, look over that right shoulder, ok. Ok, looking over my right shoulder, bring your arms back up, take a deep breath in.
Speaker 1:As I turn, I'm bringing my arms back up, uh-huh, and you're breathing in Deep breath in.
Speaker 2:And your arms are straight over your head. I'm just not doing it because my heart yes, I'm going straight up. Yes, here we go. Here we go, because my poncho is coming up over my head. I don't want to do it. Ok, now you go to the left.
Speaker 1:Go to the left with my arms straight out in front of me. Over your left shoulder OK. Bring your arms straight back up, Straight back up. Breathe in maybe.
Speaker 2:And back down.
Speaker 1:OK, all right, there is some breathing. Do you want to do a quick breathing? Yeah, let's do some breathing, ok.
Speaker 2:So we can take. It's called square breathing. It's parasympathetic breathing.
Speaker 1:I've heard of the square breathing yes, yes.
Speaker 2:And it's good for anxiety. If people have anxiety, a little stress. That's why it's great for emotional intelligence.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:So I usually have people close their eyes.
Speaker 1:We're not going to close our eyes. All right, can I close my eyes All?
Speaker 2:right, it's so good, I know All right. So you're setting up straight Yep, you're going to take a deep breath in and I'm going to count. It's a three count Then you pause. Then a three count down, Exhale Then you pause.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:So deep breath in One, two, three pause. One exhale, open your mouth, one, two, three pause. And I do that about see, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:Is it weird that I feel wonderful right now? It's already, I'm telling you it's working, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2:When things get up, when this is what I talk about emotional intelligence Devin when we get that upset and that emotional, we stop breathing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So oxygen's not getting to our blood, blood's not getting to our brain. This is something you could do quickly.
Speaker 1:Yes, quickly, quickly, wow.
Speaker 2:So I haven't do that like three or four times.
Speaker 1:Crazy. It's just like yeah and you can see the audience just like releasing, I'm sure as they do that and it's back to.
Speaker 2:I get finished. Oh my gosh, your voice is so, and here's the hard part. Here's the hard part. You hear me and I'm like, hey, you what the cheerleader?
Speaker 1:And then when?
Speaker 2:they hire me for yoga. I have to do it. It's hard. Oh, yes, I mean. I do, you wear tie dye, I had to, I should, and a little piece there.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I need it and it is. It's hard as a speaker.
Speaker 1:Just speaker to speaker it is hard to lower your voice, oh sure.
Speaker 2:Sure Calm down. But so now they're saying oh my gosh, do you have a CD? Do you have a CD? I love your voice. Can I tell you it's one of the very first things I did 22 years ago. I made a guided meditation.
Speaker 1:Really, do you still have it? I have it and do you sell it to the people who ask for a fan?
Speaker 2:What I want to do is and this kind of disk, because, remember, I just started teaching yoga.
Speaker 1:Sure Sure.
Speaker 2:I want to do it downloadable. Nobody has CDs in their house.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, so how?
Speaker 2:funny is that that just happened.
Speaker 1:That is crazy.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, it's like oh by the way, I do have something Well it's so funny.
Speaker 1:I knew it was going to be fun with you. I knew you were going to give us some information. I feel like we're getting more than the cost of admission here.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like.
Speaker 1:Candy is bringing it today. Oh, my god, this is the record one that went Well, I know, because that's what your life and your career has been like. In a good way, you're just like are you a chameleon? I'm a chameleon, ok.
Speaker 2:Total chameleon. I have a little bit of line because we're business owners, so we have to have that line. Sure, total chameleon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I mean risk taker, flexible change. I mean with COVID, like you said. You know, think, shut down. You're like, well, I'll write a book, I'll become a certified yoga instructor.
Speaker 2:This is so cool.
Speaker 1:So then, yeah, what do you like to do then in your free time? Like, well, let's say, like you're not teaching yoga today, you're not speaking, you're not writing. What's an ideal day, look like for Candy.
Speaker 2:We live on 35 acres in a log cabin and we have a lake. And my husband just built a dock last summer, and so I love to walk and I love nature and I sit on my dock and just have peace, and I do that every Wednesday. Now, when the weather's nasty, we have a screened in porch. That's what my husband did during COVID he screened in our back porch so we could be year round.
Speaker 1:Your husband sounds like a stud building all these things. I do not work with my hands, oh really. Oh, he can do anything. He can do anything.
Speaker 2:So I take every Wednesday off. Everybody knows Wednesday is my day off. I try not to work. Unless I have a client call, I try not to work and it's just my day for me to do things that I love to watch trash TV and just enjoy nature. And I have cats and we have a dog now, and so I just that's what I love, that's what I do.
Speaker 1:Well, usually I think when I ask that question, usually it's a hypothetical question, Like, let's just say you had a day to yourself and people are like, oh man, if I only had that, you've baked it into your weekly schedule.
Speaker 2:It's part of my schedule.
Speaker 1:How long have you been taking a day off?
Speaker 2:Probably, since, I would have to say since we've moved to the country which has been. It's been seven years and it's my day of no yoga, it's my day of no travel, it's my day unless, again, unless I'm speaking, but it's probably seven years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in a way it's like you're Sabbath, you're just turning everything off unplugging as much as possible Totally Excuse me, while I pour myself some more mud water. Mudwatercom slash Devon. So what did that do for your mind in your life once you started taking that break on a regular basis? Did you see some kind of difference In your mood or anything? More peace, ok, more peace.
Speaker 2:I'm very spiritual.
Speaker 2:It's a very prayerful day for me too, and so just more peace, because running a business it can be so stressful. And we're going, we're working on future, we're working on now, we're working on thank yous, and so I don't think people and I feel like I help people and I'm starting to do that more in emotional intelligence is teaching people how to give themselves grace and how to give themselves a little bit more love, even if you just take a half a day, so it's lovely. But I'm older and I say that you've still got young kids. My kids are grown and gone. Now I get to be Grammy.
Speaker 2:And my daughter just had a new baby.
Speaker 1:Two weeks Congratulations.
Speaker 2:Brando the last brando. That's a cool name, brando they named him after the dads and Pablo the dad, her fiance. His dad's not alive, but they named it because my husband's name's Bradley.
Speaker 1:And his dad is Fernando Nice Brando. How cool is that the meaning? And it's just a cool name anyway.
Speaker 2:And you know, my daughter I've met. Yeah, I have met her. She did not want to have kids and the last thing she said this a week after, she said I can't believe that I almost deprived myself of this journey.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's so great. Yeah, what's it like being a grandma? I mean, what's the best part?
Speaker 2:Heaven, you get to just play with them and fill them up and love on them and spoil them and give them back.
Speaker 1:Your mom's a dad or mom and dad Say the same thing, exactly, exactly. Well, ok, as we wind down, candy, is there anything like any other big surprises? You know things that like because you've had so many fun facts and interesting things about you. Is there any? And I'm sure you know, later you'll be like, oh, I could have mentioned that, but is there anything else you want to surprise us with? I don't have anything in mind, I really don't. I'm just curious, like, what else could there be? You know?
Speaker 2:You know what I would just love for people to, because, like I said, I'm 61 and the older you get, the more stuff doesn't matter and and and I think, as I get older, it's just I'm just looking, I'm seeing, I'm seeing more of the blessings Again, why?
Speaker 2:I take that that Wednesday off is to remind me of of our blessing and and all of God's miracles and I don't know. I just feel like I'm just. As you get older, you just become more at peace and I hope, instead of people saying oh, I'm getting older, it's like I'm getting older.
Speaker 1:This is yeah this is I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm living my best life right now.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's amazing. Yeah Well, it's so cool just to kind of get the the bird's eye view of how you're, how you've progressed professionally, personally, relationally. Like you, you don't like. You're kind of like you're just going to take what comes your way and make the best of it, even with the challenges, right, and then and then what's cool about your career, too, is you've been able to take the things you've learned and just give them freely to people, without forcing some kind of message, which I've been guilty of in the past. I'm like, let me, I got to force some message out of myself. You've just it's just come out of you in natural ways that that really benefit people that are really fun, which, in big part, explains your success.
Speaker 2:I see, and I've never thought of it like that, but it does. But does that make sense? Do you see what I'm saying? It does.
Speaker 1:Like. I don't feel like you forced anything in your life. It's just been a natural coming out from who you are. So, yeah, thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 2:This has been a blessing. Thank you, this was fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you get to have lunch later with one of our mutual friends right, yes, yeah so that's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, tell her I said hi, so that's good, okay, awesome. Well, I have two final questions for you that are kind of. One puts you on the spot in a good way, in a fun way, it's not, it's, it's, it's good. I ask every guest the question. But before we say, before we say goodbye, we will link Candy's book, the Amazon link, in the footnotes of the show. So be sure and get, get on there, get that book, themudwatercom slash Dev, and get yourself some. Just give it a try, see if it helps you with your mood, your energy, your sleep. And also one last shout out today to, et cetera, shawnee for providing us breakfast and this place to me. So thank you for that. Okay, candy, what's the best way people can connect with you?
Speaker 2:I would go to my website because all of my information is on my website.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And that's just candy. C-a-n-d-y, wurly, w-h-i-r-l-e-ycom.
Speaker 1:Awesome, candywurlycom. We'll put a link in there too, with that. One thing I've always loved about your website and I noticed this a long time ago is that you have some merch on there, and what do you call it? What's the name of the merch page? The candy store, the candy store, isn't that so cool. I was like I want to change my name to Candy because that is so dang clever Did you think of that?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I did, I love it. Okay, okay, Awesome. Okay, here's the last question. That was question one. Here's question two. Okay, just one piece of advice for my daughters Anything you have.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're going to make me cry. Watch your blessings and don't take life too serious. And find your joy. And my saying is do not settle for what your heart is calling. Don't settle for less than what your heart is calling you to become.
Speaker 1:Don't settle for less than what your heart is calling you to become. Wow, that sounds like you've lived that out.
Speaker 2:I have that's first-hand experience. I absolutely have. That's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, awesome. Hey, this has been great, candy, thanks again. Hey, please, please, comment. Let us know what impacted you the most. What could you apply from today? From Candy, whether it's breathing, twisting, reading, it takes four to tango. Counting your blessings, let us know. All right, so that's great. Give us a rating, comments, share this with people that you think need it. And the way that I like to end the episode is with the question that I inspire my audience is with, which is what else is possible, which is the question you ask when you embrace the possibility mindset. So I always say what else in the audience finishes is possible.
Speaker 1:So, we'll finish. I'll say what else all you have to say is possible. So thank you so much for joining us and remember, never stop asking the question what else?
Speaker 2:is possible.